Toroid inductance coil

[Aroidan]

I am experimenting with using a toroid to replace the standard solenoid coil in a generator. Right now I am trying to find a configuration that will allow me to generate current. To test this I am using a Galvanometer to measure the magnetic change when I bring a magnet close to the coil. This works when testing against a standard solenoid coil. So far, however, it has not worked when using a Toroid. The toroids I have tested with have had magnetic material as the core so I am going to try building one a nylon core. Any thoughts on this? Will the galvanometer be able to detect anything?

[zero]

I hate to even mention the name but a leaky toroid like the QEG model is the only way you will induce a current into a true toroid coil. Rodin coils will work too but coefficient of coupling will be much less.

[Aroidan]

Okay, that is kind of what I thought. But I had been seeing a bunch of videos with people saying they used a toroid to induce a current or harness back emf and cancel lenz law. This seemed wrong but worth trying to verify. I am going to try a couple other methods and maybe look at the rodin and vortex coils.

Thanks

[Aroidan]

Found this patent that looks interesting and looks similar to what QEG and Quanta Mechanics guys are trying to do.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20030025416?dq=2003/0025416

I tried one last time last night to induce a current in a standard toroid winding with no success. I used a nylon washer for the core and wrapped it with 15 guage wire 5 time. Not sure how many winds that was but it was a lot. Nothing generated as expected.

Picked up a couple 3 inch toroid cores though today to build a small version of the stator in that patent. Who else has tried building one? It looks like the basic design was originally patented by Tesla...