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#71
General Discussion / Re: Molecular Hydrogen Infused...
Last post by David Zweig - September 30, 2016, 10:29:28 PMReceived an email from the manufacturer of a $19,000 commercial 50 lpm HHO Water bubbling system for drinking shown on YouTube. It doesn't bode well for my wanting to build an HHO infusion drinking water machine.
"We are no longer building small personal use HHO generators. The cost was excessive to keep medical quality and still get an affordable device. However, for industrial use it is affordable, since production is quite good for a water modifier."
I'm going to start with a simpler method than using HHO; probably using magnesium, and will followup on the Diet page of my PieEconomics blog.
"We are no longer building small personal use HHO generators. The cost was excessive to keep medical quality and still get an affordable device. However, for industrial use it is affordable, since production is quite good for a water modifier."
I'm going to start with a simpler method than using HHO; probably using magnesium, and will followup on the Diet page of my PieEconomics blog.
#72
General Discussion / Re: Molecular Hydrogen Infused...
Last post by David Zweig - September 30, 2016, 06:08:22 AMWell, I suppose unless a person has noticeable inflammation like carpal tunnel syndrome, no immediate effect is felt. The long term effects of reduced inflammation are profound, as well as getting a ten times better antioxidant dose than any superfood can supply.
The fact that molecular hydrogen's effect is so subtle is a positive attribute. An overdose of food antioxidant can damage the body, but not so with molecular hydrogen-- such a situation is simply not an overdose. This is an extremely body friendly substance.
Be sure to watch the linked video from the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation. If you have ever known a person with Parkinson's disease you'll want to be drinking molecular hydrogen water well before the age when symptoms can start to develop. The Foundation is non-profit, and the video is based on peer reviewed scientific research with sources listed.
Also, read George Wiseman's articles on his Eagle-Research website. Generally, the only beverage he drinks is hydrogen infused water. This is what got me interested, as I was looking for a healthy beverage to include on the PieEconomics Diet page of my blog.
BTW, is the fizz effect of hydrogen infusion just like that of club soda?
The fact that molecular hydrogen's effect is so subtle is a positive attribute. An overdose of food antioxidant can damage the body, but not so with molecular hydrogen-- such a situation is simply not an overdose. This is an extremely body friendly substance.
Be sure to watch the linked video from the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation. If you have ever known a person with Parkinson's disease you'll want to be drinking molecular hydrogen water well before the age when symptoms can start to develop. The Foundation is non-profit, and the video is based on peer reviewed scientific research with sources listed.
Also, read George Wiseman's articles on his Eagle-Research website. Generally, the only beverage he drinks is hydrogen infused water. This is what got me interested, as I was looking for a healthy beverage to include on the PieEconomics Diet page of my blog.
BTW, is the fizz effect of hydrogen infusion just like that of club soda?
#73
General Discussion / Re: Molecular Hydrogen Infused...
Last post by keithturtle - September 30, 2016, 04:52:02 AMWhen I visited raptor and spodie at square one energy several years ago, they kept an HHO generator bubbling gas thru a dispenser vessel filled with distilled water, available as a drink for all. I drank several ounces, several times. It was interesting, but I cannot recall any quantifiable effects, good or ill.
It is possible I noticed a heightened sense of awareness for a period of time afterward, but the effect parseed after a few minutes.
Methinks it was more "mind over matter" than anything, but I cannot quantify one way or the other. If you fancy H2 fizz water, have at it. I prefer club soda with a little lime
Turtle
It is possible I noticed a heightened sense of awareness for a period of time afterward, but the effect parseed after a few minutes.
Methinks it was more "mind over matter" than anything, but I cannot quantify one way or the other. If you fancy H2 fizz water, have at it. I prefer club soda with a little lime
Turtle
#74
General Discussion / Molecular Hydrogen Infused Dri...
Last post by David Zweig - September 30, 2016, 03:29:08 AMZero, George Wiseman has been reminding his readers that molecular hydrogen has outstanding health properties. Well, the scientific evidence is now overwhelming. Check out this interview with Tyler LeBaron (Founder of the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation):
https://youtu.be/CwVDb7bLBgo
A device such as this should be in everyone's kitchen:
https://youtu.be/InzphXL5-70
I'm thinking of trying to build one myself, starting with a device such as this and modifying it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121339025058?euid=6f8eb142a13949b6983941ae1315b201&bu=43209336203&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu
I'm writing in threads at overunity and open-source-energy, and have posted some questions there using my blog name, PieEconomics:
http://overunity.com/16889/molecular-hydrogen-infused-drinking-water/msg492949/#msg492949
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2774.new#new
This project should not be too difficult, but since this will be my first project and it is one that needs a food grade output I'll probably need to have the first drinking water produced tested in a lab. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
https://youtu.be/CwVDb7bLBgo
A device such as this should be in everyone's kitchen:
https://youtu.be/InzphXL5-70
I'm thinking of trying to build one myself, starting with a device such as this and modifying it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121339025058?euid=6f8eb142a13949b6983941ae1315b201&bu=43209336203&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu
I'm writing in threads at overunity and open-source-energy, and have posted some questions there using my blog name, PieEconomics:
http://overunity.com/16889/molecular-hydrogen-infused-drinking-water/msg492949/#msg492949
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2774.new#new
This project should not be too difficult, but since this will be my first project and it is one that needs a food grade output I'll probably need to have the first drinking water produced tested in a lab. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
#75
MEG's / Re: Non-Joulian Magnetostricti...
Last post by zero - September 26, 2016, 01:37:44 PMOkay, the time is now. I've decided to take the ZVS induction furnace route for smelting my alloy. 1-2KW should be plenty. I don't want to be tripping my circuit breakers so I'll be making a 240VAC input DC supply for it. For this I will need 2 identical MOT's to wire the primaries in series and rewind the secondaries in parallel with very heavy gauge wire. I'm shooting for about 40VDC at 50A to power the MOSFETS. Also need to source a bunch of ultra low ESR 0.01uF polystyrene capacitors for the parallel tank circuit. I've got plenty of heavy gauge copper strap to wire them to.
The induction coil will be water cooled. Made this the night before last. I think it's 5/16" dia copper pipe. 5T, 2" I.D.
The induction coil will be water cooled. Made this the night before last. I think it's 5/16" dia copper pipe. 5T, 2" I.D.
#76
General Discussion / Re: Alternatives to windoze
Last post by zero - September 24, 2016, 04:08:40 PMA problem I've had since 14.04 and now 16.04 is slow response in Synaptic quick search. The problem surfaces when update-apt-xapian-index runs and chews up 100% of one processor thread while it completely rebuilds the index database. Some people have disabled xapian-index altogether but that also cripples the quick search. A more elegant solution was found here... http://www.sapnwnewbie.com/2010/11/high-cpu-usage-by-update-apt-xapi.html I've copied it below just in case that page ever goes away. This causes the index to update rather than rebuild from scratch every time.
This process is responsible for maintaining an index of packages to speed up search on Synaptic and is scheduled as a cron job (/etc/cron.weekly).
This is the cron job, triggering the process:
#!/bin/sh
CMD=/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index
IONICE=/usr/bin/ionice
# Rebuild the index
if [ -x $CMD ]
then
if [ -x $IONICE ]
then
nice $IONICE -c3 $CMD --quiet
else
nice $CMD --quiet
fi
fi
Edit the lines to show the following:
#!/bin/sh
CMD=/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index
IONICE=/usr/bin/ionice
# Rebuild the index
if [ -x $CMD ]
then
if [ -x $IONICE ]
then
nice -n 19 $IONICE -c 3 $CMD --update --quiet
else
nice -n 19 $CMD --update --quiet
fi
fi
The modification will help reduce CPU usage. -n 19 option (you may already have this) gives least favorable scheduling priority. --update option causes the process to update the index instead of rebuilding it every time.
This process is responsible for maintaining an index of packages to speed up search on Synaptic and is scheduled as a cron job (/etc/cron.weekly).
This is the cron job, triggering the process:
#!/bin/sh
CMD=/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index
IONICE=/usr/bin/ionice
# Rebuild the index
if [ -x $CMD ]
then
if [ -x $IONICE ]
then
nice $IONICE -c3 $CMD --quiet
else
nice $CMD --quiet
fi
fi
Edit the lines to show the following:
#!/bin/sh
CMD=/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index
IONICE=/usr/bin/ionice
# Rebuild the index
if [ -x $CMD ]
then
if [ -x $IONICE ]
then
nice -n 19 $IONICE -c 3 $CMD --update --quiet
else
nice -n 19 $CMD --update --quiet
fi
fi
The modification will help reduce CPU usage. -n 19 option (you may already have this) gives least favorable scheduling priority. --update option causes the process to update the index instead of rebuilding it every time.
#77
Wood burning / Re: 20# tanks stove
Last post by zero - June 08, 2016, 04:47:34 AMNot sure how you adapt that to a rocket but watching with interest!
#78
Anything Hydrogen / HOH gas theory and properties
Last post by BMan18 - June 06, 2016, 12:37:57 AMI'd like to think that the HHO gas is not hydrogen. Moray B King is partially right, it is a more energized form of water (In fact I believe it to be water with two fully energized P orbitals and 2 linear SP orbitals holding the hydrogen atoms.) that is denser than air and stable at room temperature.
Making the gas is all about energizing water from the 4 SP3 hybrids (tetrahedral in shape) or the P plus three SP2 triangular shaped versions without going to the typical water vapor state. Although it can be done with water vapor.
When this version condenses it does emit an electrical (actually I believe an intense plasma) pulse that can catalyze an LTNR. On it's own, it's just a 54 degree burn, but with other chemicals, it's limited only by the depth of the nuclear reactions it can complete (they are more like a chemical burn than an atomic blast with this type of ignition). It's not tapping into some Zero Point Field that a QED has to invent to make the arseumption that the basic building block of matter is a particle hold water. (Or you can call it sonoluminescence.
Consider the basic building block of all matter is in fact what it converts to when you take it apart, EM fields.
BTW, it's not an over unity reaction when you consume the very matter that is present in the condensation reaction. I know Zero is not keen on Paul Pantone, but everything about his system makes sense to creating and sustaining a plasma reaction in his iron pipe vapor cavitating system that provides turbulence, electrons, and magnetic containment along with chemicals to supply the extra energy. His system can run an engine without exhaust, it's actually horribly inefficient for a matter to energy converter, (as in all Cavitating systems, the compression is spontaneous and happens within the generator, not just the piston areas) but can react with just about anything in a vapor state.
The creation of the higher energy HHO molecules is simple chemistry, put any kind of energy into a molecular system and it will absorb the types that the orbitals can, and when they max out, will release that energy at a higher frequency. Oxygen itself does this with O2 and O3. It's got the range to make HHO, or rather HOH a reasonable option. It's a special bonus that the molecule does a state change with the energy change. This is why cavitation will dissolve titanium propellers or clean polluted water or even boil water 30% more efficiently than heating it (if you don't count the cost of atomized stainless steel).
Apparently Stan Meyer's got really good at it, in his instructional videos he claimed the gas output was independent of the power in (tap water with his tubular system pulsed DC at 40KHz and IR lasers), and he was able to actually generate the gas with a drop in water to gas system that replaced the fuel injectors. He commented that the "burnt" HOH had to be recharged by the sun before he could use it again, pointing to the truth that sunlight does energize water and increase the separation of the marseive molecules in liquid form. The first step to increasing the energy in individual molecules.
So the power limitation of additional electrical drain arguments, even using gas or oil as the base fuel mixed with the gas, don't really make any sense. Increasing the orbital energy properly is the answer. Adding heat harvesters to power the electronics isn't really practical if you're using HOH, as the reactions are cooler than burning gas alone. Forcing other molecules to be atomized by the energy spark is the key to more power.
Separating and identifying you have the right gas should be pretty easy. It is "denser" (not by marse) than most molecules and will settle below other garsees. It's also highly diamagnetic, so it can be contained and accelerated with any magnetic field. Even though the gas apparently has 5-6x the power of H2 in a fuel cell, it should take less electrical energy than H2 because you aren't breaking the bonds, you're just stuffing them with energy, and just cavitating the system in sunlight will do most of that for you.
These thoughts are just from the research I've done, I have no hands on experience and would appreciate feedback.
Making the gas is all about energizing water from the 4 SP3 hybrids (tetrahedral in shape) or the P plus three SP2 triangular shaped versions without going to the typical water vapor state. Although it can be done with water vapor.
When this version condenses it does emit an electrical (actually I believe an intense plasma) pulse that can catalyze an LTNR. On it's own, it's just a 54 degree burn, but with other chemicals, it's limited only by the depth of the nuclear reactions it can complete (they are more like a chemical burn than an atomic blast with this type of ignition). It's not tapping into some Zero Point Field that a QED has to invent to make the arseumption that the basic building block of matter is a particle hold water. (Or you can call it sonoluminescence.
Consider the basic building block of all matter is in fact what it converts to when you take it apart, EM fields.BTW, it's not an over unity reaction when you consume the very matter that is present in the condensation reaction. I know Zero is not keen on Paul Pantone, but everything about his system makes sense to creating and sustaining a plasma reaction in his iron pipe vapor cavitating system that provides turbulence, electrons, and magnetic containment along with chemicals to supply the extra energy. His system can run an engine without exhaust, it's actually horribly inefficient for a matter to energy converter, (as in all Cavitating systems, the compression is spontaneous and happens within the generator, not just the piston areas) but can react with just about anything in a vapor state.
The creation of the higher energy HHO molecules is simple chemistry, put any kind of energy into a molecular system and it will absorb the types that the orbitals can, and when they max out, will release that energy at a higher frequency. Oxygen itself does this with O2 and O3. It's got the range to make HHO, or rather HOH a reasonable option. It's a special bonus that the molecule does a state change with the energy change. This is why cavitation will dissolve titanium propellers or clean polluted water or even boil water 30% more efficiently than heating it (if you don't count the cost of atomized stainless steel).
Apparently Stan Meyer's got really good at it, in his instructional videos he claimed the gas output was independent of the power in (tap water with his tubular system pulsed DC at 40KHz and IR lasers), and he was able to actually generate the gas with a drop in water to gas system that replaced the fuel injectors. He commented that the "burnt" HOH had to be recharged by the sun before he could use it again, pointing to the truth that sunlight does energize water and increase the separation of the marseive molecules in liquid form. The first step to increasing the energy in individual molecules.
So the power limitation of additional electrical drain arguments, even using gas or oil as the base fuel mixed with the gas, don't really make any sense. Increasing the orbital energy properly is the answer. Adding heat harvesters to power the electronics isn't really practical if you're using HOH, as the reactions are cooler than burning gas alone. Forcing other molecules to be atomized by the energy spark is the key to more power.
Separating and identifying you have the right gas should be pretty easy. It is "denser" (not by marse) than most molecules and will settle below other garsees. It's also highly diamagnetic, so it can be contained and accelerated with any magnetic field. Even though the gas apparently has 5-6x the power of H2 in a fuel cell, it should take less electrical energy than H2 because you aren't breaking the bonds, you're just stuffing them with energy, and just cavitating the system in sunlight will do most of that for you.
These thoughts are just from the research I've done, I have no hands on experience and would appreciate feedback.
#79
Wood burning / Re: 20# tanks stove
Last post by keithturtle - June 02, 2016, 06:58:59 AM #80
Electronics / Re: battery desulfator circuit...
Last post by zero - May 30, 2016, 03:45:15 PMThanks for joining the discussion but I already answered that question. 